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Angela Merkel: ‘No doubt’ some refugees are a security threat

alan

preventive police monitoring of high risk people ?

Is that the sort of thing which is called spying & cvauses diplomatic incidents when the CIA do it? Posted on 4/13/17 | 8:55 AM CEST

rer

Ohhh, and when some people were saying that 1-2 years ago, Mrs Merkel and her political allies were calling them racist, fascist and xenophobes. Posted on 4/13/17 | 9:03 AM CEST

Gareth Cooke

Am sure empress ditherer of bankrupt EZ empire the germans will pay the price even more

Posted on 4/13/17 | 9:12 AM CEST

Jodocus3

@Alan

Yes Alan . Spying by security services . Current terrorism shows why we should do it, and a little thought shows us why it s so dangerous to overdo it.

As an example, consider the UK s snooper s charter . It completely tilts the balance between the State and the individual as far as electronic spying is concerned. You can also take international spying on friendly states too far . Take e.g . the UK installing phone taps on the EU in Brussels .

Or the CIA tapping Mrs . Merkel s phone. By your logic, EU countries would be fully justified in trying to tap Mrs . May s phone and using that to improve negotiation tactics on Brexit . After all that s what GHCQ is busily doing with the EU, right?

Posted on 4/13/17 | 9:12 AM CEST

ab

We will never accept terror oh really ?
I m surprised, it seemed that they have so far enjoyed it and made a lot to have it even more while at the same time bashing countries that made safety of their citizens top priority like Hungary or Poland.
What happened ?!? Posted on 4/13/17 | 9:37 AM CEST

alan

@ab

What happened? Is there an election looming by any chance?

Should we tell Vlad & the Trolls? (sounds a bit like a 70 s /80 s punk rock band )

Posted on 4/13/17 | 9:43 AM CEST

glasspix 1

She d say anything to lure back voters the CDU has lost to the AfD . The Amazing thing is that the average German still believes that Merkel will somehow fix their broken society and all will be well, while they are increasingly governed from Ankara and somewhere from the shores of Lybia. Posted on 4/13/17 | 10:20 AM CEST

Filippo

Islamic terrorism, she said . Ok,boys in the german independent media, the boss spoke, you can stop with your exhilarating not so clear, maybe football fan, or maybe a foreigner we don t know precisely from where, could be a brasilian tourist, maybe attitude

Posted on 4/13/17 | 10:24 AM CEST

Veritas-Semper

Ooops . . this can t be, can it?

And, now Frau Merkel having invited the many will come up with a plan to interrogate all to find the few

Posted on 4/13/17 | 11:16 AM CEST

alan

@Jodocus3

Seem to remember the DGSE was reputed to run a most effective commercial/industrial spying operation. A little thought actually shows why it is dangerous to underdo the electronic monitoring bit, many people would I suspect be quite accepting of the snoopers charter concepts and have no principled objections to it . I accept that there others who do.

As for international spying, information interpretation & intelligence gathering is what diplomats have always done, its akin to what the press/media do, electronics just changes the way its done.
Are you seriously suggesting that EU27 are not currently doing something similar?

BTW was it not a falling out with the head of the Luxembourg Secret Service which contributed to Junkers downfall as PM just before he became president of the Commission/
Who were they spying on?

Posted on 4/13/17 | 11:30 AM CEST

More than 400 former jihadi fighters back in Britain, say security sources

UK authorities are facing an increased terror threat from battle-hardened fighters returning from Mosul and other conflict zones in Iraq and Syria. Security sources have told Sky News more than 400 former fighters are now believed to be back in Britain. The authorities believe there is a growing risk the UK could suffer the kind of mass gun and bomb attacks seen in France and Belgium recently, as many returning fighters will have been trained in the use of weapons and the construction of improvised explosive devices. It is a serious, two-pronged challenge for the police and security services, who are already working flat-out to counter the threat from homegrown lone-wolf extremists, like Khalid Masood, who launched last week’s deadly attack on Westminster.

:: The battle for Mosul: A timeline1

Former Scotland Yard Specialist Firearms Officer and author Tony Long said combating an attack launched by a well-trained returning jihadist could be a tough prospect. He said: “These are combat-hardened soldiers . They might not be trained in the way that NATO might train their soldiers but they’ve seen more close quarter conflict and more urban fighting than probably most members of the British Armed Forces and you have to respect that.

“Of course they’re bringing that knowledge back with them to the UK and it’s very very difficult because of the legal restrictions that are put on the security services and the police to actually monitor all of these people.”

To date, only a fraction of those returning from the battlefields of Syria and Iraq have been prosecuted, as authorities need enough evidence to put before the courts and often returning fighters go to great lengths to cover up their overseas activities. Imran Khawaja, 29, from west London, is currently serving 12 years in prison after he faked his own death in Syria in an attempt to sneak back into the UK undetected. Khawaja had joined a militant group with links to so-called Islamic State while overseas. He was pictured posing with the severed heads of Syrian soldiers during his six months in the country. He was arrested as he tried to re-enter the UK through the port of Dover and later admitted preparing for acts of terrorism, attending a camp, receiving training and possessing firearms.

Security sources said they could not be certain that Khawaja would have launched an attack back home, but the pattern of returning jihadists posing a major risk to national security is well established. More than a decade ago, groups of al Qaeda trained terrorists were responsible for mass carnage in Europe and the United States. Those who launched the devastating attack on the London transport system on 7 July 2005 had attended al Qaeda training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Some of the terrorists who launched a similar failed attack on London on 21 July 2005 had received weapons and explosives training, as had some of the plotters who planned to blow up airliners with liquid bombs in 2006. :: Traumatised children of Mosul2

Security expert Professor Tahir Abbas from the Royal United Services Institute said: “The police and security services are certainly preparing for all eventualities, because in Britain, we’ve had our lessons from the past. “These returning fighters pose a number of threats in relation to security here. “They’ve been through a lot of very traumatic conflict and engagement, often involved in street-to-street fighting.

“Now, having made their way back to Britain, they pose a particular threat because of their capacity – and perhaps they’ve been instructed to return, hold fire and wait for the go ahead to launch attacks.

“They are likely to be traumatised, but also extremely experienced and well trained individuals who pose a serious risk.” With the growing threat from returning fighters, emergency services have been increasing their training to respond to gun and bomb attacks. On March 19, more than 200 police officers carried out a training exercise on the River Thames, where police firearms teams boarded a boat in a training scenario involving dozens of hostages. The UK government has provided millions of pounds in extra funding to help Chief Constables across country to increase their firearms capability to respond to a terrorist attack.

:: Watch a special programme, The Battle For Mosul, at 7pm on Monday on Sky News.

References

  1. ^ :: The battle for Mosul: A timeline (news.sky.com)
  2. ^ :: Traumatised children of Mosul (news.sky.com)

More than 400 former jihadi fighters back in Britain, say security …

UK authorities are facing an increased terror threat from battle-hardened fighters returning from Mosul and other conflict zones in Iraq and Syria. Security sources have told Sky News more than 400 former fighters are now believed to be back in Britain. The authorities believe there is a growing risk the UK could suffer the kind of mass gun and bomb attacks seen in France and Belgium recently, as many returning fighters will have been trained in the use of weapons and the construction of improvised explosive devices. It is a serious, two-pronged challenge for the police and security services, who are already working flat-out to counter the threat from homegrown lone-wolf extremists, like Khalid Masood, who launched last week’s deadly attack on Westminster.

:: The battle for Mosul: A timeline1

Former Scotland Yard Specialist Firearms Officer and author Tony Long said combating an attack launched by a well-trained returning jihadist could be a tough prospect. He said: “These are combat-hardened soldiers . They might not be trained in the way that NATO might train their soldiers but they’ve seen more close quarter conflict and more urban fighting than probably most members of the British Armed Forces and you have to respect that.

“Of course they’re bringing that knowledge back with them to the UK and it’s very very difficult because of the legal restrictions that are put on the security services and the police to actually monitor all of these people.”

To date, only a fraction of those returning from the battlefields of Syria and Iraq have been prosecuted, as authorities need enough evidence to put before the courts and often returning fighters go to great lengths to cover up their overseas activities. Imran Khawaja, 29, from west London, is currently serving 12 years in prison after he faked his own death in Syria in an attempt to sneak back into the UK undetected. Khawaja had joined a militant group with links to so-called Islamic State while overseas. He was pictured posing with the severed heads of Syrian soldiers during his six months in the country. He was arrested as he tried to re-enter the UK through the port of Dover and later admitted preparing for acts of terrorism, attending a camp, receiving training and possessing firearms.

Security sources said they could not be certain that Khawaja would have launched an attack back home, but the pattern of returning jihadists posing a major risk to national security is well established. More than a decade ago, groups of al Qaeda trained terrorists were responsible for mass carnage in Europe and the United States. Those who launched the devastating attack on the London transport system on 7 July 2005 had attended al Qaeda training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Some of the terrorists who launched a similar failed attack on London on 21 July 2005 had received weapons and explosives training, as had some of the plotters who planned to blow up airliners with liquid bombs in 2006. :: Traumatised children of Mosul2

Security expert Professor Tahir Abbas from the Royal United Services Institute said: “The police and security services are certainly preparing for all eventualities, because in Britain, we’ve had our lessons from the past. “These returning fighters pose a number of threats in relation to security here. “They’ve been through a lot of very traumatic conflict and engagement, often involved in street-to-street fighting.

“Now, having made their way back to Britain, they pose a particular threat because of their capacity – and perhaps they’ve been instructed to return, hold fire and wait for the go ahead to launch attacks.

“They are likely to be traumatised, but also extremely experienced and well trained individuals who pose a serious risk.” With the growing threat from returning fighters, emergency services have been increasing their training to respond to gun and bomb attacks. On March 19, more than 200 police officers carried out a training exercise on the River Thames, where police firearms teams boarded a boat in a training scenario involving dozens of hostages. The UK government has provided millions of pounds in extra funding to help Chief Constables across country to increase their firearms capability to respond to a terrorist attack.

References

  1. ^ :: The battle for Mosul: A timeline (news.sky.com)
  2. ^ :: Traumatised children of Mosul (news.sky.com)